For example, what about these prophecies:
Tribe of Judah
Genesis 49:10 Fulfillment: Luke 3:23, 33
House of David
Jeremiah 23:5Fulfillment: Luke 3:23, 31
Enter Jerusalem on a donkey
Zechariah 9:9 Fulfillment: Matt. 21:1–8
Born at Bethlehem
Micah 5:2Fulfillment: Matt 2:1
Introduced by a messenger
Isaiah 40:3 Fulfillment: Matt. 3:1–3
Body pierced in crucifixion
Zechariah 12:10 Fulfillment: John 19:34
Laid to rest with the rich
Isaiah 53:9 Fulfillment: Matt. 27:57–60
Endure wounds and bruises
Isaiah 53:5 Fulfillment: Matt. 27:26
Teaching and healing ministry
Isaiah 61:1, 2;Fulfillment: Matt. 9:35; Luke 4:17–21
Isaiah 32:3–4; 35:5
Arrive before the Temple and
Jerusalem destroyed
Daniel 9:26Fulfillment: Temple, Jerusalem destroyed AD 70
Labeled Lord and God
Jeremiah 23:6,Fulfillment: John 20:28, Luke 2:11
Isaiah 9:6
Killed 483 years after decree to rebuild Jerusalem
Daniel 9:25–26Fulfillment: Gospels, history (cross, about AD 30)
Silent before accusers
Isaiah 53:7 Fulfillment: Matt. 27:12
You have to keep in mind the new testament was written specifically to give the impression that old testament prophesies were fulfilled by the Jesus mythologies concocted by Paul and others.
This was not that difficult to do in retrospect as the New Testament writings were all done after the death of the real Jesus.
Love and blessings Don
June 16th, 2010 at 1:47 am
Hogwash.
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June 16th, 2010 at 2:16 am
it is called "confirmation bias for extremely gullible people"
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June 16th, 2010 at 3:04 am
pity and laughter
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June 16th, 2010 at 3:50 am
How do christians respond when the bible commands them to stone disobedient children to death?
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June 16th, 2010 at 4:11 am
Same way you respond to the prophecies of Muhammad, it is to vague and anyone can interpret it to say anything they please.
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June 16th, 2010 at 4:26 am
How we respond? Something like this… *mega yawn*
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June 16th, 2010 at 4:44 am
i laugh at them.
just like i laugh at any blind faith.
only believe in 2+2 the rest just doesnt make sense.
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June 16th, 2010 at 5:01 am
They were written after the event was said to have taken place. This means they’re not prophecies, but stories.
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June 16th, 2010 at 5:39 am
The most sobering way is to verify the actual Old Testament quote and see what context each and every one of these were lifted out from.
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June 16th, 2010 at 5:45 am
They see conspiracies everywhere.
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June 16th, 2010 at 5:56 am
I have a book where it says something will happen, then later it happens.
Wow, are you impressed or WHAT?
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June 16th, 2010 at 6:10 am
Same way I respond to all other ambient noise…just tune it out.
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June 16th, 2010 at 6:41 am
yawn, proabably most of those events didnt happened, give prove then ill believe you
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June 16th, 2010 at 6:51 am
theres thousands of other crazy ideas, why should i believe in yours
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June 16th, 2010 at 7:24 am
Why would an atheist care about prophecies from a God that they don’t believe exists in the first place?
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June 16th, 2010 at 8:09 am
The same way I respond to prophecies made by Nostradamus. With mild amusement.
As a Christian, how do you respond to the failed prophecies concerning Jesus?
Failed Prophecies: Mark 8:39 to 9:1 & 13:30-33 / Matthew 16:28 & 24:34 / Luke 9:26-27
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June 16th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Any idiot can foresee the PAST — the authors of the New Testament had ready access to those prophecies and could tailor their story to fit them.
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June 16th, 2010 at 8:56 am
* The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
* Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
* The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
* The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
* Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
* Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
* He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
* All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
* Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
* There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
* All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
* The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
* He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
* Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
* The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
* The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
* Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
* The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
* He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
* Jews will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33)
* He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
* He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)
He missed a lot too.
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June 16th, 2010 at 9:16 am
The events had already taken place before the bible was written. How the heck does that work?
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June 16th, 2010 at 9:31 am
You have to keep in mind the new testament was written specifically to give the impression that old testament prophesies were fulfilled by the Jesus mythologies concocted by Paul and others.
This was not that difficult to do in retrospect as the New Testament writings were all done after the death of the real Jesus.
Love and blessings Don
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June 16th, 2010 at 9:47 am
How does an atheist respond to prophecies about Jesus Christ?
With a Yawn.
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June 16th, 2010 at 10:36 am
With a face-palm. Religion is such a weakness.
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June 16th, 2010 at 11:13 am
You do know that it is pretty easy to write a prophecy in the first part of a book and then have it come true in a later part don`t you?
It is quite a common literary device.
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June 16th, 2010 at 11:43 am
I respond with the laughter and derision that they – and you – deserve.
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June 16th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
They do not believe because they do not want to believe.
It should be obvious to any open minded person that Jesus fulfilled the prophesies. It should be obvious to any open mined person that God exists, but evidence does not matter if someone does not want to believe.
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June 16th, 2010 at 12:59 pm
No Cross no matter how Holy can possibly hold any human body hanging so comfortably for any length of time without any pain from just a nail in each hand. The Bible writers have the body of Jesus Christ beaten to a pulp, thoroughly tenderized and heavily marinated in Roman soldiers’ spit before it was nailed to the Holy Cross by his hands as the “spotless Lamb of God” in fulfillment of Bible prophecies especially the MOST CONVINCING ONE given in the Book of Job.
Prophecy:
Job 17:6 (NIV) God has made me* (*Jesus) a byword to everyone* (*that is when the Bible writers claim that “God the Father laid on HIM [Jesus] the ‘INIQUITY’ of us all” Isa 53:6), A MAN IN WHOSE FACE PEOPLE SPIT* (*preachers are very careful protecting their source of income not making this hedonistic “prophecy” too popular!).
Fulfillment:
Matthew 26:67 (NIV) Then they* (*the Romans, NOT THE JEWS!) SPIT IN HIS FACE and struck him with their fists. Others slapped him* (*some shy Roman soldiers only slapped him!).
Matthew 27:30 (NIV) They SPIT ON HIM, and took the STAFF* (*Jesus is always portrayed wearing a hooked STAFF shepherding his herd of 12 Holy Apostles) and struck him on the head again and again.
Mark 14:65 (NIV) Then some began to SPIT AT HIM; they blindfolded him, struck him with their fists, and said, "Prophesy!" And the guards took him and beat him.
Mark 15:19a (NIV) Again and again they struck him on the head with a staff and SPIT ON HIM* (*since spit is used in a lot in sexual activities it is possible that the Bible writers were trying to convey a spiritual message of some sort about their lifestyle!).
That’s about a US Gallon of ROMAN SPIT (not Jewish, but ROMAN SPIT!) I believe that M. Gibson skipped the spit part in his “Passion of the Christ” flick for obvious reasons! Please correct me if I’m wrong and I promise to watch the movie again!
Christians go wild claiming that the JEWS rejected Jesus Christ, but the most debasing rejection of Jesus Christ ever put together by the Bible writers comes from the Romans, not from the Jews! Apparently Jesus’ image invited a lot of Roman spit! There is no record that Jesus took a shower after any spitting session! He must have enjoyed because he did not complain. There is no record that the Roman soldiers ever dressed any of their victims’ genital area in a white diaper before nailing them to any Cross no matter how Holy! The Romans were much better known to IMPALE their victims driving a thick pole into the victim’s rectum and forcing them TO STAND ON IT WITHOUT ANY FOOT REST until the pole would eventually pierce the heart or lung killing them by their own body weight! The thicker the pole, the longer it took for the victim to die! Jesus hardly suffered at all hanging his full body weight so gently from a nail in each hand. THE 2 NAILS CAN’T POSSIBLY HOLD ANYBODY HANGING IN THERE FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME so the Church Fathers came up with the idea of the foot rest at the right height and size to make Jesus feel a bit cozier (John 20:25-27). Some weird Christians are looking forward to see Jesus HOLEY Body like Saint Thomas did! Christians claim that “crucifixion” is the most tormenting death ever invented to appease their foremost child abuser GOD in history! Not so! Impalement would have been a real pain in Jesus’ anal cavity. If Jesus had a pole jammed up into his Holy Anus his eyes would be popping out of their orbit! He would be screaming all sorts of profanities at his Holy Daddy up in Heaven instead of wasting time chatting with everybody around. He conducted a long heated conversation with his peers nailed to the other 2 crosses, and with some of the guests at the crucifixion site, and with the Roman soldiers that crucified him, and with his Daddy God up in Heaven who was getting off and didn’t want to answer him. Jesus seemed to have had no issues with the crown of thorns that he was wearing. Anyway, the whole “crucifixion” story is a hoax of historical proportions set forth by the creative mind of the Bible writers in all guile even making some room for reality (Acts 25:19)!
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June 16th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
He probably never existed. When believers later wrote about him, the ascribed all of the mentioned details in order to convince the Jewish community that he was the Messiah.
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Propoganda is not a modern invention.
June 16th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
In about the same way one looks at the first book of the LOTR trilogy prophesying the One Ring will be taken to Mordor and destroyed, and then find out in a later book that this does indeed happen.
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LOTR trilogy.
June 16th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
With barely concealed laughter.
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June 16th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
He wasnt from the tribe of judah or the house of david.
Tribal lineage is passed down by the father, according to Torah law, and it is the true Messiah’s father who will be from the tribe of judah and the house of david.
Jesus had no father, and therefore he has no claim to the tribe of judah or the house of david.
Right there is enough to disqualify him from being the Messiah.
There are similar problems with every single one of the Christian old testament verses you are quoting. Did you know that the Catholic Church made over 3000 changes in the Christian old testament from what the Jewish bible actually says? It changed around verses, sentences, words, letters, it even added things that arent even there.
None of the Christian old testament quotes you’ve given say in the Jewish bible what you’ve got there in your Christian old testament, and most of the verses and verse numbers you quoted arent even messianic prophecies in the first place.
Poor you.
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June 16th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
to me they are self fulfilling prophesies, not something I take seriously
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June 16th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Same way I respond to stories from any religion. Wonderment. It amazes me to see the magnitude of human creativity when it comes to the inexplicable and transcendent.
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June 16th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
with a great big belly laugh.
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June 16th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
By pointing out how utterly bereft of honesty they are.
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